Permanence of Salvation v1

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Once saved, always saved - but is it true? What does the bible say?
Christians often link the question “How can I be sure I am saved?” (Assurance) with the question “Am I eternally secure in my salvation?” (perseverance vs Apostasy) and different theological backgrounds have landed in different places on these questions.
Outline:
To answer this question we need to unpack a few things to get there:
How are we saved
Can we loose that salvation, or once we have prayed ‘the sinners prayer’ we are saved
How should we respond to someone who wants to become a Christian and what confidence / asurety can we ourselves have?

How are we saved?

All humans are cut off from right relationship with God and need that relationship restored. Salvation is a gift from God Eph 2:4-5, not the result of anything we have done 1 Cor 1:29-31 so we can’t boast.
Dictionary of Bible Themes 6512 salvation, necessity and basis of

Scripture stresses that fallen human beings are cut off from God on account of their sin. All need to be saved, if they are to enter into a new relationship with God as their Creator and Redeemer. Salvation is not the result of human achievement, privilege or wisdom, but depends totally upon the graciousness of a loving God, supremely expressed in the cross of Jesus Christ. People must respond in repentance and faith if they are to benefit from God’s offer of salvation in Christ.

Ephesians 2 says:
You are dead in your transgressions and sins,
We were by nature deserving of wrath
But because of his great love for us, God, made us alive with Christ, it is by grace you have been saved.
Ephesians 2:1–5 NIV
As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.

What is salvation and why should we be saved?

Salvation changes our status before God as a result of repentance and faith in the atoning death of Jesus Christ on the cross. It gives us access to God, adopted into his family, through the forgiveness of sin. We become a new creation, through a new birth, to have peace with God, due to obtaining his righteousness , having a heavenly citizenship and inheritance. Wow what a joy to be saved!

salvation

The transformation of a person’s individual nature and relationship with God as a result of repentance and faith in the atoning death of Jesus Christ on the cross. All humanity stands in need of salvation, which is only possible through faith in Jesus Christ.

Dictionary of Bible Themes 6511 salvation, nature of

Salvation as a change in status before God

Access to God Ro 5:1-2 See also Eph 2:13; Heb 4:16

Adoption into the family of God Jn 1:12; Ro 8:22-24; Gal 4:4-7

Forgiveness of sin Ac 5:30-31 See also Ps 32:1-2; Mt 26:28; Ac 10:43; 13:38; Eph 1:7; Col 2:13

Heavenly citizenship Php 3:20-21 See also Eph 2:19; Col 3:1-2; Heb 12:22-24

Inheritance from God Ro 8:17 See also Col 1:12; Rev 21:7

Peace with God Eph 2:13-17 See also Isa 53:5; Jn 16:33; Ro 5:1-2; Col 3:15

Righteousness in the sight of God Ro 1:17 See also Isa 61:10; Ro 3:22; 4:3-13,25-5:1 The idea of being righteous in the sight of God lies at the heart of Paul’s doctrine of justification by faith; 1Co 1:30; 2Co 5:21; Php 3:8-9; 2Ti 4:8; Heb 11:7

Salvation as a change in a person’s nature

Becoming a new creation 2Co 5:17 See also Ro 6:4; Gal 6:14-15; Eph 2:15

Deliverance from God’s righteous condemnation Ro 8:1-2 See also Isa 50:8; Ro 5:15-17; 8:33-39; Col 1:22

Deliverance from the power of sin and evil Gal 1:3-4 See also Ro 6:14; 7:21-25; 8:2-4; 1Pe 2:24; Rev 1:5

Inner personal renewal 1Jn 1:7 See also Ps 51:1-2,7; Heb 1:3; 10:19-22

New birth Jn 3:3-7 See also Jas 1:18; 1Pe 1:23; 1Jn 3:9

The presence of the Holy Spirit Ro 8:10-11 See also Gal 5:2-25

How can I be saved? — Salvation requires belief and repentance:

John 3:36 “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.”
Romans 10:8-10 “But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.”
Acts 3:19Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,”
Dictionary of Bible Themes 6512 salvation, necessity and basis of

Salvation demands a human decision

Jn 3:36; Ac 3:19 See also Mk 1:15; Lk 8:50; Jn 3:17-18; Ac 2:37-39; Heb 12:25; 1Pe 2:4-8; 1Jn 5:10

Yet at the same time, being able to believe and repent is a gift from God—>>>??????
Ephesians 2:8-10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
John 6:37 “All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.” —> God knows those who are his....
Mark 9:24 “Immediately the boy’s father exclaimed, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!””
deny me, i will deny you. but later Jesus says I will pray for you.
Jude 1:22-23 “Be merciful to those who doubt; save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.”
James 5:19-20 “My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.”
1 Timothy 4:16 “Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.”
1 Corinthians 5:5 “hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.”
- his sin was so bad, put out of church, so his soul could be saved, through the process of church discipline.
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Romans 11:19-23 “You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.”

This does not suggest that a Christian can lose his salvation; it refers to Gentiles as a whole (suggested by the sing. you) turning from the gospel much as Israel as a nation had done.

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The consequences of persistent, intentional unbelief == dying in sin and rejection by God:
Dictionary of Bible Themes 8835 unbelief, nature and effects of

The consequences of persistent unbelief

Failure to receive God’s reward Heb 3:19 The “rest” that God’s people enjoyed on entering the promised land is here taken to symbolise the final reward prepared by God for his people. See also Heb 4:1-2,6; Jude 5

Exclusion from the people of God Ro 11:20 See also Heb 6:4-6

Death in sin Jn 8:24 See also Ps 106:43; Mk 4:12; Ac 10:43

God’s wrath Jn 3:36 See also Ro 1:18; 2:5,8

Condemnation by God Jn 3:18 See also Mk 16:16; Lk 12:46; Jn 12:48; 2Th 2:12; Rev 21:8

The ‘eternal sin’

Mark 3:29 “but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”” also in Luke 12:10
== persistent, intentional decision to deny that forgiveness of sins comes only Jesus Christ. Definitely not speaking to the teenager who has sinned for the 47 time this hour and wondering if they are still saved.
The teachers of the law are saying Jesus is an demon possessed in Mark 3:22 and Mark 3:30, so they miss understand who Jesus is, If Jesus is the devil they are saying he is not perfect, then he can’t be the perfect lamb and can’t provide salvation, so then you can’t be saved.
It is an intentional, ongoing rejection of Christ as king
If all sins can be forgiven, what makes this one special, it must be attacking the mechanism through which you are saved.
This is a very stern warning. But context his key. People are saying Jesus is the devil, Jesus is saying you are getting very close to the edge. To a teenager stressing about if they are saved, Jesus is not talking to you here, he is talking to those saying you can’t be saved through Jesus.
Israel did not enter the promised land because of unbelief, so we too are called to continue to respond to the gospel, so that we can enter His rest.
Hebrews 3:19-4:3 “So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief. Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed. Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said, “So I declared on oath in my anger, ‘They shall never enter my rest.’ ” And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world.” “So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.”

Works are evidence of salvation:

2 Peter 1:10 “Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble,” 2 Peter 1:5-12
The author is not saying that virtue and holiness produce salvation, but that virtue and holiness are the evidence of salvation (Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition Notes (Biblical Studies Press, 2006), 2 Pe 1:10.)
Romans 2:7-8 “To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.”
Romans 1–7 for You The Evidence, Not the Basis

Paul is saying that works matter—not as the basis for salvation, but as the evidence that someone has the faith that saves

James 2:14-26 and Philippians 2:12–13 —> also affirms the same —> Good works are evidence of salvation

C. How should we respond to someone who wants to be become a Christian?

Praying a ‘sinners prayer’ is a great thing to do - but no matter how earnest in the moment does not make someone a Christian.

The sinner’s prayer is a prayer a person prays to God when they understand that they are a sinner and in need of a Savior. Saying a sinner’s prayer will not accomplish anything on its own. A sinner’s prayer is only effective if it genuinely represents what a person knows, understands, and believes about their sinfulness and need for salvation.

You can repeat after me: “God, I know that I am a sinner. I know that I deserve the consequences of my sin. However, I am trusting in Jesus Christ as my Savior. I believe that His death and resurrection provided for my forgiveness. I trust in Jesus and Jesus alone as my personal Lord and Savior. Thank you Lord, for saving me and forgiving me! I trust you with my life. Please come into my life today and start to change me to be like you. In Jesus name, Amen!” Welcome to the family of God!

Ask the person to explain what is the gospel and what being a christian means
Hallelujah and We’ll see:
“Hallelujah!” because true conversion is the best thing that can happen to a person
We’ll see” because we know that conversion can be counterfeit, even if unintentionally.
The most important check of conversion is threefold: a good understanding of the gospel, a changed life, and a long-term walk with Christ.
Evangelism: How the Whole Church Speaks of Jesus 9. A Culture that Knows How to Affirm and Celebrate New Life

After a series of one-on-one meetings and Bible studies with Mark Dever, Rob rejected his former atheistic faith and told Mark that he had become a Christian. “Well, Rob,” said Mark, “tell me what you mean.” Rob explained the gospel and related how he had repented of his unbelieving way of life and put his complete trust in Christ.

Then Mark said: “Brother, from what you told me, I agree with you: you have become a Christian. Let’s pray.” After they prayed, Mark said: “You understand that the mark of true conversion is not a prayer, but a long-term walk with Jesus. So, even though I believe you have come to Christ, we’ll see what happens as time goes on.”

Mark’s reply is an example of what I call the “ ‘Hallelujah!’ and ‘We’ll see’ ” response. We say “Hallelujah!” because true conversion is the best thing that can happen to a person. We say “We’ll see” because we know that conversion can be counterfeit, even if unintentionally. The most important check is threefold: a good understanding of the gospel, a changed life, and a long-term walk with Christ.

Mark didn’t keep Rob’s conversion a secret, but neither did he elevate Rob as an instant celebrity. At his baptism, Rob shared, appropriately, how he had come to faith. But there were trials to come, and how he walked through them was more important than any conversion story.

In a culture of evangelism, Christians know how to respond to those who have recently come to faith.

Can someone loose their faith?

Perseverance of salvation — can some who was once saved, always saved.

Quotes from Four Views on Eternal Security

Christians often associate the questions “How can I be sure I am saved?” (Assurance) with the question “Am I eternally secure in my salvation?” (perseverance vs Apostasy)
Both of these questions cut to the heart of Christian experience.
Four Views on Eternal Security Introduction (J. Matthew Pinson)

Perhaps the reason for the intense interest in this subject is that the doctrine of perseverance relates closely to the assurance of salvation. Christians often associate the questions “How can I be sure I am saved?” and “Am I eternally secure in my salvation?” One’s answer to one of those questions often affects his or her answer to the other. Perhaps because of this very practical reason—because it cuts to the heart of Christian experience—perseverance has been a chief source of controversy among Christians.

There is a continuum of beliefs on perseverance
1) Classical Calvinist from a covenant theology perspective would land that only the elect are saved, believers did nothing to get to that state, grace was irresistible before so will remain irresistible after, therefore a believer can’t loose their salvation. HA: therefore if they do loose their salvation, they were not really saved in the first place?? ==Calvinism offers security for the believers, it cannot offer present assurance that one is indeed elect.
Four Views on Eternal Security Classical Calvinism

Michael S. Horton offers a contemporary interpretation of the Classical Calvinist viewpoint. Because Scripture teaches that election to salvation is unconditional, he argues, necessary perseverance follows. Since believers did nothing to get into a state of grace, they can do nothing to get out. If grace is irresistible before conversion, then it remains irresistible after conversion. Final perseverance is a certain and necessary part of Paul’s order of salvation (ordo salutis) in Romans 8:29–30. Those whom the Father has elected and whom the Son has purchased through his death and whom the Holy Spirit has irresistibly drawn to himself must of necessity persevere.

2) Moderate Calvinism (Most Baptists and many evangelicals) argues that, while strong Calvinism offers security for the believers, it cannot offer present assurance that one is indeed elect. While Arminianism can offer present assurance, it cannot offer security. Moderate Calvinism, he contends, has the “best of both worlds” in that it alone offers true assurance and security. Geisler presents a model that holds in tension the freedom of human beings to resist the grace God offers them before conversion and the absolute eternal security of the individual who has received Christ through faith. In this way, he attempts to strike a balance between Classical Calvinism and Arminianism.

Norman Geisler presents the Moderate Calvinist perspective. He argues that Classical Calvinism’s understanding of predestination, the extent of the atonement, and effectual calling have no scriptural support. He stresses that the New Testament teaches that God will preserve in grace the one who has once been regenerate. Thus, the loss of salvation is impossible. Christians are eternally secure, based on the imputation of Christ’s righteousness and God’s unconditional promises to the believer. Rather than merely discarding the traditional TULIP formulation, however, Geisler reinterprets it, arguing that each point of Calvinism can be held in either a strong or moderate sense.

He also distinguishes himself from Classical Calvinism and Arminianism in his understanding of assurance. He argues that, while strong Calvinism offers security for the believers, it cannot offer present assurance that one is indeed elect. While Arminianism can offer present assurance, it cannot offer security. Moderate Calvinism, he contends, has the “best of both worlds” in that it alone offers true assurance and security. Geisler presents a model that holds in tension the freedom of human beings to resist the grace God offers them before conversion and the absolute eternal security of the individual who has received Christ through faith. In this way, he attempts to strike a balance between Classical Calvinism and Arminianism.

3) Reformed Arminianism - believed apostasy is possible. Yet his position does not imply that sin causes loss of salvation in a believer. The only way a Christian can lose salvation is by renouncing his or her faith in Christ. Arminius stated that it is “impossible for believers, as long as they remain believers, to decline from salvation.”. He defined the elect as only those regenerate persons who persevere in a state of grace to the end of life.
Four Views on Eternal Security Reformed Arminianism

Arminius believed that not all regenerate persons are elect. He defined the elect as only those regenerate persons who persevere in a state of grace to the end of life: “Since Election to salvation comprehends within its limits not only Faith, but likewise perseverance in Faith … believers and the elect are not correctly taken for the same persons.”

This position shows that Arminius believed apostasy is possible; otherwise, he would have said that all regenerate persons are also elect. Statements like these have led scholars like Bangs and R. T. Kendall to conclude that Arminius believed in the possibility of apostasy. Yet his position does not imply that sin causes loss of salvation in a believer. The only way a Christian can lose salvation is by renouncing his or her faith in Christ. Arminius stated that it is “impossible for believers, as long as they remain believers, to decline from salvation.”

4) Wesleyan Arminianism (various Methodist churches, Salvation Army, most traditional Pentecostal-charismatic denominations) argues that believers can lose their salvation through one of two means: (1) apostasy through unbelief and (2) unconfessed sin.
Four Views on Eternal Security Wesleyan Arminianism

Steve Harper provides insight into the Wesleyan Arminian view of security. He does this by probing the writings of John Wesley, thereby allowing Wesley to “speak for himself.” After dealing with aspects of Wesley’s historical and theological context, Harper investigates the background doctrines of depravity, grace, atonement, and justification. Then he launches into a discussion of the Wesleyan approach to apostasy, arguing that believers can lose their salvation through one of two means: (1) apostasy through unbelief and (2) unconfessed sin. Believers have the freedom to reject Christ, Harper suggests, and deliberate, voluntary sins, as violations of God’s known law, become mortal if not repented of. Because of the radical graciousness of God, loss of salvation can be remedied through renewed repentance and faith.

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