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Joyce Meyer

Joyce Meyer is a Word Faith teacher.  The Word Faith basically teaches the following, although not all Word Faith teachers are unified in all that they believe:  Christians are little gods (Are Christians little gods?)  Jesus did not pay for our sins on the cross but he had to finish the job of atonement in hell  (Did Jesus pay for our sins in hell?).  We can command God by our words and God wants us healthy and wealthy (Danger of Blessings).  If Christians are not healthy and wealthy it is because of our lack of faith and/or knowledge (Christians and Sickness).  Christians have total control over their environment by the words that we speak, if we speak sickness and poverty we will be sick and broke.  Conversely, if Christians speak blessings and healing we will be healthy and wealthy.

  The Bible makes it very clear, God even simplified the matter by placing it all into one easy to understand chapter.  God teaches us the following: that we should be content, we should not desire to be rich, the love of money is the root of all evil, that many people have erred from the faith due to a love of money, then it commands us to flee these things, (1 Timothy 6).

Some of the most Godly people in the Bible were poor, Paul (Philipians 4:11-12), Paul's companions (1 Corinthians 4:9-13), Old Testament faithful       (Hebrews 11:37) and Jesus (Matthew 8:20, 2 Corinthians 8:9).

"Supposing that gain is godliness; from such withdraw thyself...But godliness with contentment is great gain...And having food and clothes let us be content...But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts...For the love of money is the root of all evil, which, while some have coveted after, they have erred from the faith...But thou, O man of God, flee these things, and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness," 1 Timothy 6:6-11. 

   

Joyce Meyer:

"Faithful partnership with Joyce Meyer Ministries gives you an effective way to channel your support that you can trust---and it allows us to budget our money and manage this ministry with excellence."

(Joyce Meyer, letter from her ministry 2004)

Note: Can we trust Joyce Meyer with our money?  Explain these things:

"Joyce Meyer says God has made her rich.  Everything she has came from Him: the $10 million corporate jet, her husband's $107,000 silver-gray Mercedes sedan, her $2 million home and houses worth another $2 million for her four children — all blessings, she says, straight from the hand of God..."If you stay in your faith, you are going to get paid," Meyer told an audience in Detroit in September.  "I'm living now in my reward."

Meyer is fond of nice things and is willing to spend for them. From an $11,000 French clock in the ministry's Fenton headquarters to a $105,000 Crownline boat docked behind her vacation home at Lake of the Ozarks, it's clear her tastes run more to Perrier than to tap water.

The building is decorated with religious paintings and sculptures, and quality furniture. Much of it, Meyer says, she selected herself.

A Jefferson County assessor's list offers a glimpse into the value of many of the items: a $19,000 pair of Dresden vases, six French crystal vases bought for $18,500, an $8,000 Dresden porcelain depicting the Nativity, two $5,800 curio cabinets, a $5,700 porcelain of the Crucifixion, a pair of German porcelain vases bought for $5,200.

The decor includes a $30,000 malachite round table, a $23,000 marble-topped antique commode, a $14,000 custom office bookcase, a $7,000 Stations of the Cross in Dresden porcelain, a $6,300 eagle sculpture on a pedestal, another eagle made of silver bought for $5,000, and numerous paintings purchased for $1,000 to $4,000 each.

Inside Meyer's private office suite sit a conference table and 18 chairs bought for $49,000. The woodwork in the offices of Meyer and her husband cost the ministry $44,000. 

Meyer drives the ministry's 2002 Lexus SC sports car with a retractable top, valued at $53,000. Her son Dan, 25, drives the ministry's 2001 Lexus sedan, with a value of $46,000. Meyer's husband drives his Mercedes-Benz S55 AMG sedan.

"My husband just likes cars," Meyer said.  The Meyers keep the ministry's Canadair CL-600 Challenger jet, which Joyce Meyer says is worth $10 million, at Spirit of St. Louis Airport in Chesterfield. The ministry employs two full-time pilots to fly the Meyers to conferences around the world.

Security is important to Meyer, who says she has received death threats. She has a division of the ministry dedicated to her safety. Her officers wear pistols; they guard the headquarters' front gate, keeping out anyone but employees and invited guests.

The ministry bought a $145,000 house where the security chief lives rent-free to keep him close to the ministry's headquarters.

Since 1999, the ministry has spent at least $4 million on five homes for Meyer and her four children near Interstate 270 and Gravois Road, St. Louis County records show.

Meyer's house, the largest of the five, is a 10,000-square-foot Cape Cod style estate home with a guest house and a garage that can be independently heated and cooled and can hold up to eight cars. The three-acre property has a large fountain, a gazebo, a private putting green, a pool and a poolhouse where the ministry recently added a $10,000 bathroom."

(Article on Joyce Meyers, 11152003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"It's amazing to me how many people are jealous of the car I drive or the house I live in or the size of my ministry...Don't be jealous of the fact that I fly my own airplane...But you know what I've noticed?  I've never had anybody who drives a car like mine be jealous of my car.  I've never had any other minister who has an airplane be jealous of my airplane.  So you know we're really not mad at what other people have, we're mad because we don't have it!"

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"Oh, shut up!  I mean there is not a one of you sitting out there today if you were in full time ministry and you had an opportunity to have your own airplane rather than flying around commercial all of the time that you wouldn't have one too.  We are only jealous because we don't have what other people have!  And it's a rotten thing on the inside of us that God wants to get out."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"You know, I was listening to a set of tapes by one man and he explained it like this, and I think this kind of gets the point across, he said, ‘Why do people have such a fit about God calling His creation, His man—not His whole creation, but His man—little gods?  If He’s God, what’s He going to call them but the god-kind?’  I mean, if you as a human being have a baby, you call it a human kind.  If cattle has another cattle, they call it cattle-kind.  So, I mean, what’s God supposed to call us?  Doesn’t the Bible say we’re created in his image?  Now, you understand I am not saying you are God with a capital G."

(Joyce Meyer, "Authority and Opposition," Tape 1236.   Article, "What Joyce Wants Joyce Gets")

"There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting.  You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell."

(Joyce Meyer, "The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make," Booklet, page 37, 1991 edition)

Note: Did Jesus Pay For Our Sins in Hell?

"To be born again you must believe:...He went to hell in your place and gained victory there, triumphing over the enemy (Acts 2:21)."

(Joyce Meyer, "The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make," Booklet, page 35-36, 2003 edition)

"Our words are containers of power.  The power of life and death is in the tongue."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold?" TBN, May 24, 2004)

"We can kill the plan of God for our lives with a negative confession."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"I want to say it again, be sure you're not killing God's good plan for your life by letting negative words come out of our mouth all of the time.  I believe that wrong words affect our health.  I would go so far as to say that there are people here today that you may be sick in your body simply because of speaking wrong words, negative words."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"Say this with me, 'I will not kill God's good plan for my life by speaking negative words."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"I want us to think again for a minute in closing about this thing about making sure that we're not killing God's plan with negative words."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

Note: This is absurd to think that our words can kill a plan of an Almighty and Sovereign God.  Think about it my friend, is this not the height of arrogance to think that our words can kill what God wants to do? 

What does the bible have to say about the sovereign plan of God and the vain efforts of man that try to subvert it?

"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35. 

"The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand...For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it?  And his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?" Isaiah 14:24, 27.  See also Isaiah 8:10; 43:13; Psalm 115:3; 135:6.  Whom will you believe, God or Joyce Meyer?

"If I speak death I'll eat death.  If I speak life I'll eat life...I want you to say with me, 'I can destroy my life with my own words."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"I believe that words are containers for power and they either carry negative or positive power.  They carry creative or destructive power.  So, if I'm speaking right things I'm going to have right results.  And if I'm speaking wrong things I'm going to have wrong results.  And we do pay for our words.  If, if I can say it like this, we eat our own words."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"The tongue, as small as it is, is a very powerful member of the body. Scripture indicates that the tongue gives direction to our life—either good or bad.  Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and they who indulge in it shall eat the fruit of it [for death or life] (Proverbs 18:21). In other words, what we’ve spoken in the past may be the very reason we’re where we are today. We must learn to speak in accordance with God’s Word and His will."

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Straight to the Heart" May 2004)

"When Jesus was experiencing the most intense pressure of His life, He decided that it would be wise not to open His mouth.  Why?  I believe it was because He realized that in His humanity, He would have been tempted to do the same thing you and I are tempted to do—doubt, question God, complain, or say something negative."

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Crossing Over to the Other Side" May 2004)

"Even though she had had the problem for twelve years, and the crowds looked impossible to penetrate, she pressed through and received her miracle. Her faith was released through her words.  What a powerful example for you and me."

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Crossing Over to the Other Side" May 2004)

"Our Words Are Containers of Power: "Words are very important, and we will be held responsible for them. Proverbs 18:21 says, Death and life are in the power of the tongue…What we say has the power to impact our lives and the lives of others in a negative or a positive way. That’s why we need to learn to think about what we’re going to say before we say it."

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Think before You Speak" May 2004)

"Did you know that you can change the very course of your life by the type of words you speak?"

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Think before You Speak" May 2004)

"Careless words spoken in the heat of the moment may not mean much to us, but they carry a lot of weight in the unseen realm of the spirit."

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Think before You Speak" May 2004)

"Don’t waste your time and energy speaking “death filled” words. Meditate on the truth of Scripture and begin to speak it aloud over your life every day.  The end result will amaze you!"

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Think before You Speak" May 2004)

"I speak to auditoriums filled with thousands of people.  By giving out the Word of God, I know that I will not lead them astray.  By meditating on Scripture and dedicating my mouth to God, I know that my life’s on the right track. Through reading the Word and living it, a transformation occurs: My words are no longer mine; they become His."

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Words" May 2004)

"The power of life and death is in our tongue, and God wants you to begin calling those things that don’t currently exist as if they already did.  In time, you will see them come to pass (see Proverbs 18:21; Romans 4:17)."

(Joyce Meyer, Enjoying Everyday Life Magazine, "Sweet Satisfaction of Contentment" May 2004)

"You have to talk back to the Devil.  One of the most important things you can learn to do is talk back to the Devil.  And We'll talk about that a little bit more tomorrow.  But I want you to listen to me, I do it everyday of my life.  Everyday of my life."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 1 of 4 the "Mind")

"My teaching this weekend as usual is not going to be doctrinally religious.  It's going to be something that you can use in your everyday life."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 1 of 4 the "Mind")

"But you cannot throw out positive confession, and you cannot throw out all the faith teachers, and you cannot throw out positive thinking.  And you cannot get rid of those kinds of things because they're in the Bible from one end of it to the other."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, pg. 6.  Witchcraft and Related Spirits, pt. 1, sides 1 and 2)

"The faith movement is right.  You can't throw the faith movement out the window."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, pg. 14.  Witchcraft and Related Spirits, pt. 1, sides 1 and 2)

"We need to have faith filled words going out of our mouth."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, pg. 14.  Satan and Demons-Origin and Fall, side 2)

"I'm trying to be on so much television that you either got to watch me or not watch t.v."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 2 of 4 the "Mouth")

"Giving doesn't cost, it pays!"

(Joyce Meyer, Daystar Spring Share-A-Thon, March 2, 2004)

"You know that if you send these offerings into the ministry your gonna help us to keep reaching out to hurting people all over the world. What you make happen for somebody else God will make happen for you.  Sow a seed and God will meet your need."

(Joyce Meyer, "Enjoying Everyday Life," June 24, 2004)

"Words are containers for power they carry creative or destructive power positive or negative power so we need to be speaking right things over our lives and about our futures if we expect to have good things happen because what you say then is what you  probably end up having tomorrow.  We need to warfare with words.  I believe that praise and worship is warfare.  We talked about this last night, how when we are praising and worshipping God that there's actually an odor that comes off of us that is offensive to the enemy. And I don’t know if you ever had the opportunity to smell a demon possessed person but I have, and I tell you it is a stench; and I was saying about that this morning and I thought you know people that are demon possessed have an offensive odor to me and I’m glad because I am Holy Ghost possessed that I’ve got an offensive odor to the devil."

(Joyce Meyer, audio-clip, "Bible Answer-man," Hank Hanegraaff, January, 2003)

"You know, I've begun to figure out that the more people I hire that don't know what they're doing, the better off I am.  It's when you get the smart ones that you've got a problem.  You need to get ones that don't know how to do nothing."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 5)

"Do you know that in this country [United States]  that we are probably more ignorant of demonic power than any other country on the face of the earth?  You go to almost any other nation, and they understand demonic power.  They understand demons getting into people and possessing them.  But in this nation, we have stuck our head in the sand and tried to blame it on everything except the devil."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 6)

"[In] one of the foreign lands, there's a certain tree that they believe that demons inhabit this tree.  Demons have been known to inhabit rocks.  And you know, there are inanimate objects that they will inhabit.  But largely  they want to inhabit a human body.  Occasionally they will get into an animal, but they want to be in a body.  That's the highest honor to them is to get in a body.  They want to be in a body."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 6)

"Evil spirits are drawn to sounds, to smells, and also to different things they can see like different idols."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 6)

"Poverty is probably one of the most unique spirits to watch.  You can watch a spirit of poverty take over an entire neighborhood...And almost always with a poverty spirit, comes a spirit that just stinks.  I mean, a poverty spirit just plain stinks.  When I get people at the altar that got a poverty spirit on them they almost always have bad breath and body odor."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 6)

"You know, alot of lazy people get demons.  A lot of passive people get demons."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 6)

"Now here's where I'm telling you---I don't have Bible to back this up---I'm telling you this man's experience.  We do have Scriptures to back up that there are ranks and orders of demons, okay?  But he tells us what some of them look like, and so on and so forth.  I can't prove that and have no reason to believe he's lying.  Matter of fact, I bear witness with what he says."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 7)

"Do you know I believe that I can feel it when people are talking about me?  And I don't necessarily know how I feel or what I feel, but I might feel pressure that day.  I might feel physically bad that day."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 10)

"I tell you when somebody comes to me and says, 'Oh, this stuff don't work,' I'd like to black both their eyes."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 10)

She speaks of one 'Charismatic nut' who 'aggravated' her 'to the point where I just wanted to strangle her.'"

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, page 10)

"It breaks my heart when people are in poverty then they can have prosperity."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold" May 21, 2004)

"You got a storage bin, a storage locker in heaven that has alot of stuff in it that needs to be claimed."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold" May 21, 2004)

"We need to claim as much of that inheritance as we possibly can...One of the things you can do right now is speak positive things about your future right now."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold" May 21, 2004)

"Sowing and reaping is a spiritual law...Sow generously and you will reap generously."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold" May 21, 2004)

"You can't necessarily get a hold of the gospel with your mind.  You feel when it's right in here."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold" May 21, 2004)

"My call to the believer in Christ is to teach them and help them grow up and mature so they can have what Jesus died to give them."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold" May 21, 2004)

"I don't want to spend my whole life talking about the promised land without ever getting there.  I want to live in it."

(Joyce Meyer, "What Does Your Future Hold" May 21, 2004)

"The blame game started in the Garden.  Adam blamed God, 'The woman you gave me.'  You know what?  Adam was the head of the house, if he was standing there why didn't he say something?  Why didn't he say something?  Why didn't he do something?  I'm not taking that rap anymore [Cheers]!  You know the Bible doesn't even necessarily say that God told Eve not to eat of that tree.  He told Adam.  Maybe Adam didn't tell Eve, I don't know."

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 4 of 4 the "Attitudes")

Note: The Bible clearly shows that Eve knew that her and Adam shouldn't eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Bible also says, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.  For Adam was first formed, then Eve.  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression," 1 Timothy 2:11-14.

Also, if nobody told Eve not to eat of "that tree" how did she know not to eat of it?

"And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:  But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die," Genesis 3:2-3.

"I'll bet I give him [the Devil] a nervous breakdown about six times a day.  I hope every time he sees me coming he has to take a whole handful of tranquilizers."

(Joyce Meyer, PFO Quarterly Journal, April-June 2002, pg. 10)

"Come on now!  I'm preaching good tonight! [Cheers!]"

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 1 of 4 the "Mind")

"Uh, oh!  Uh, oh!  Now don't give me dirty looks, because I'm preaching good!"

(Joyce Meyer, "Mind, Mouth, Moods, and Attitudes," tape 4 of 4 the "Attitudes")

Note: Pride is one sign of many that a false teacher posseses (1 Timothy 6:4; Jude 8-19; 2 Peter 2:10-18).

"Meyer then delivered her sermon for giving.  She told them that some Christians are worried that if they give it all, they will end up with nothing. If they give, she said, they can expect much more in return."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11172003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"Sowing and reaping is a law," Meyer told the Buffalo audience. "If you sow, you will reap.  I believe stingy people are very unhappy people. I want you to give your best offering.  I believe one person could write one check to cover all of the expenses of this one conference."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11172003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"God does not need our money.  The giving thing is not for Him, it's for us," Meyer told a Detroit audience in September.  "I should not have to work to try to support myself."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11172003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"She lectured for nearly an hour before ending with the same plea she'd been delivering for a decade: "Make your checks payable to Joyce Meyer Ministries/Life in the Word.  And million is spelled M-I-L-L-I-O-N."

Many in the crowd flipped open their wallets or pulled out their checkbooks.

No one came forth with a million dollars that day in June. But in September, the ministry says, an East Coast woman gave stock worth that amount.  Meyer then asked for more.

"I didn't have that thing for five minutes and I said, 'OK, God. Next I'll take $5 million,'" Meyer later told an audience in Tampa.

It is this kind of hard-edged audacity that has made Meyer one of the biggest names in big-name TV evangelism and has endeared the Fenton grandmother to millions of faithful supporters worldwide.  At 60, she shows no signs of slowing down as she stretches herself further.

In St. Louis last month, Meyer asked for a $7 million check.  "That would really bless me," she said."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11172003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"Meyer keeps the audience standing.  She tells them that through her, God will cure their headaches, depression, stomach problems, drug addiction and homosexuality.

In Buffalo, Meyer instructed the women in the audience to place their hands on their stomachs while she spoke.  Most did.  She told them she had healed all of their female problems.  She announced that she once did this and a woman with cancer went to the doctor and found it had gone away.

Meyer then told the audience, which had been standing for an hour, that she was going to heal their backaches.  She let them sit down.  "I know someone is already feeling better," she quipped."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11172003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

Sometimes soft, sometimes tough, Meyer's plea for money, like most things she does, is matter-of-fact and without apology.

"Some of you need to sow a special seed this weekend," Meyer told her Detroit audience.  "Don't be a $10 man all your life.  Don't even be a $100 man all your life. . . . You have to give sometimes until it hurts.  It needs to cost you something."

Sometimes, she's more demanding.   "I don't have to stand here and beg," she told the crowd in Buffalo.  "What God wants you to do here tonight is to pay for somebody else to watch my show."

Meyer told her Detroit audience about those who are unhappy with the way she pleads for money.

"People say, 'I don't want to hear about the money, the money, the money, the money.  I came to hear Joyce. I didn't come to hear about the money,'" Meyer said.  "Giving will change your life.  When God gives you an increase, you give more."

(Article on Joyce Meyer, 11172003, St. Louis Post Dispatch)

"Clearly, the reason Meyer appeals to “revelation knowledge” and not the Bible is because her doctrine is another Gospel.  She has borne false witness against God by saying that He put this teaching into her spirit.  Again, she finds herself on even more dangerous ground with such a claim.  She has painted herself into a theological corner by claiming this teaching came directly from God.  If it came by revelation from God and means our very salvation, as she says, it is a doctrine that must never be denied or ignored.  If she ever moves to disclaim such teaching, then she has lied — to the utmost — in saying that God gave her the declaration by revelation.  She is a false prophet.

When we allow ourselves to drift from God’s Word alone, we open ourselves to be exposed to “destructive heresies” from men and women who distort the truth (2 Peter 2:1).  Apart from Scripture, we will all too easily believe and tolerate false and unorthodox teachings.  The Church needs Bereans who “examine the Scriptures daily to see whether these things are so.”  We must commit ourselves to a lifelong and daily study of Scripture in order to grow in our knowledge and understanding of God.  We must not allow ourselves to become weary in our passion for the Word.  We should be like the Psalmist whose very being was consumed with a longing for God’s Word in his life (Psalm 119:20).  We must never become bored with the Scriptures so that we search for truth apart from the Bible.  Regrettably, for many Christians, they’re looking for truth in all the wrong places.

The Church does not need modern-day prophets, like Kenyon, Copeland or Meyer, to uncover for us principles of God’s redemption for man, that have been missed down through the centuries.  Jesus promised the Holy Spirit, who would “guide you into all the truth” (John 16:13).  Whether knowingly or unknowingly, Meyer, with her call to “spirit revelation,” is supplanting the work of the Holy Spirit."

(PFO Quarterly Journal, Editorial)

"Meyer says she should not have to defend how she spends the ministry's money."

"Security is important to Meyer, who says she has received death threats. She has a division of the ministry dedicated to her safety. Her officers wear pistols; they guard the headquarters' front gate, keeping out anyone but employees and invited guests.

The ministry bought a $145,000 house where the security chief lives rent-free to keep him close to the ministry's headquarters.

Since 1999, the ministry has spent at least $4 million on five homes for Meyer and her four children near Interstate 270 and Gravois Road, St. Louis County records show.

Meyer's house, the largest of the five, is a 10,000-square-foot Cape Cod style estate home with a guest house and a garage that can be independently heated and cooled and can hold up to eight cars. The three-acre property has a large fountain, a gazebo, a private putting green, a pool and a poolhouse where the ministry recently added a $10,000 bathroom.

The ministry pays for utilities, maintenance and landscaping costs at all five homes. It also pays for renovations. The Meyers ordered major rehab work at the ministry's expense right after the ministry bought three of the homes.

For example, the ministry bought one home, leveled it and then built a new home on the site to the specifications of Meyer's daughter Sandra and her husband, county records show.  Even the property taxes, $15, 629 this year, are paid by the ministry. Meyer says she expects the best, from where she lives to how she looks.

Much of her clothing is custom-tailored at an upscale West County dress shop. At her conferences, she usually wears flashy jewelry. She sports an impressive diamond ring that she said she got from one of her followers.


“I’m going to tell you something folks, I didn’t stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn’t a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that’s heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I’m righteous and I can’t be righteous and be a sinner at the same time.”

“Now whether you like it or not, whether you want to admit it or not, whether you want to operate on it or not, you are made the righteousness of God in Jesus Christ.  Most people who go to denominational churches never ever hear that!  They never hear it!  Never!  All I was ever taught to say was, ‘I’m a poor, miserable sinner.’ I am not poor, I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I was and if I still am then Jesus died in vain. Amen?”  (Joyce Meyer, “What Happened from the Cross to The Throne?” audio)  

One does not have to be part of the religious world to believe this, the Bible actually says this and it certainly is not from the pit of hell. The Bibles definition of sin is anything falling short of perfection.  One of the words for sin is Harmatia -- missing the mark or target and hitting another is the most common explanation. To keep the law perfect means to have a bullseye every time. No one can do this.   “Everything that does not come from faith is sin” (Rom. 14:23).  Knowing good and not doing it is sin (James 4:17).  Not doing what should be done is sin. To sin means one is a sinner.  It is absurd to say You stopped sinning because you stopped calling yourself a sinner.

Of course one can be righteous and be a sinner at the same time, because it is not our righteousness but Christ's. John makes it clear (I Jn. 1:8-10) “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.” John refutes the error that we have no sin nature, by using the word sin in the singular. It is not just the committal of sin but the principle of sin, he is referring to sin of every description. To those who profess to have become perfectly sanctified, and to live without any sin, John says  If we say that we have no sin, we live in self deception, “and the truth is not in us.” This kind of attitude will affect all that we do. Meyers claim of this is very concerning because she is promoting this as a revelation from Scripture, when it is not. Her doctrine of justification is skewed.

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